Commons:Deletion requests/2024/08/18

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The film The Man with the Golden Arm is an adaptation of the novel The Man with the Golden Arm. The copyright for the film itself lapsed after not being renewed but the novel's was renewed in 1976, so the film's story is still under copyright. Only content that doesn't use elements of the original story are usable on Commons. hinnk (talk) 02:54, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Comment The book was written by Nelson Algren. The screen rights were bought by producer Bob Roberts and a first scenario was written by Paul Trivers but rejected by the Production Code Administration. Five years later, Preminger purchased the film rights from Roberts. The story was written by Walter Newman and Lewis Meltzer. Neither Algren nor Trivers contributed to it [1]. — Racconish💬 06:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The final screenplay was still based on Algren's story, right? It reads to me as basically the same situation as It's a Wonderful Life, where whoever holds the rights to the original story can enforce a claim over the film. hinnk (talk) 00:53, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As I said, the screen rights were bought by Roberts who then sold them to Preminger. So no, I don't see what claim can be enforced here. This is a standard situation in the US since the Kalem Co. v. Harper ruling by the Supreme Court in 1911: motion picture production companies must first secure the film rights of any previously published work still under copyright before commissioning a screenplay based on that work. — Racconish💬 06:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The issue is that, as a derivative work of a copyrighted novel, there are restrictions on the film that are incompatible with our licensing requirements (see Stewart v. Abend). I am not free to, for example, make my own derivative work based on the film's story and distribute it commercially without infringing on the novel's story. I bring up en:It's a Wonderful Life specifically because the article discusses the ways the original author's estate and the film studio were able to restrict redistribution of the original film and the creation of derivative works. Similar restrictions apply here. hinnk (talk) 09:03, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not sure Stewart v. Abend applies here. We may feel the need to indicate the film is a derivative of a still copyrighted novel, but this is not a situation such as a public domain cartoon with a copyrighted character where any use of the film would be infringing the copyright on the character. — Racconish💬 09:29, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Files uploaded by HusseinoK (talk · contribs)

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Out of scope: low-quality AI-generated images of the White House, the Statue of Liberty, an American flag, Sleeping Beauty Castle at Disneyland, and, oddly, several of Kratos from the video game God of War. The first four are all redundant to many higher-quality photographs, and the latter are clearly derivative works.

Omphalographer (talk) 04:55, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

أنا رفعت ملفات على مقالات تكاد لا تحتوي على هذه الصور أما بالنسبة للدقة فيوجد العديد من هذه الصورة مرفوعة بدقة عالية
مقالة كريتوس كانت لا تحتوي غبر على صورة واحدة فقط
إذا تكررت هذه الشكاوي سأتوقف عن المساعدة في نشر أي صورة أو ملف قد يساعد في تحسين ويكيبيديا و ويكيميديا كومنز HusseinoK (talk) 11:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: based on their usage, CSD G3. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 02:41, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by HusseinoK (talk · contribs)

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Likely copyvio: these images all look like they were scanned from print media; the uploader's claim of own work seems unlikely. (This is particularly obvious for images like File:نبات المنثور.jpg or File:بطم.jpg, where there's a clearly visible halftone pattern.)

Omphalographer (talk) 02:56, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

أنا أقوم بتصوير النباتات بشكل علمي مع ثماره و أزهاره
لا اعلم ين هي المشكلة
هل ستحذف الصور التي قمت بتصويرها و النباتات التي قمت بشرائها من أجل ويكيبيديا ستكون بلا فائدة!!
ارجوكم لا أريد لتعبي و أموالي التي أنفقتها أن تذهب بلا فائده HusseinoK (talk) 03:04, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(ترجمة جوجل) تبدو هذه الصور وكأنها صور لصفحات من الكتب. هل التقطت صورة للنبات بنفسك، أم التقطت صورة لصورة شخص آخر؟ The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 03:09, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
يوجد بعضها من كتاب و بعضها من تصويري ولكن الكتاب علمي وهو للإثراء فقط HusseinoK (talk) 03:14, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
anyway if this photos removed I will remove all my work in wikipedia and wikimedia commons
because i buy this plants for this websites and improve them
if this websites don't respcet my i will stop help them and go away
thank you anyway that was beautiful days i don't want to finish them HusseinoK (talk) 03:10, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't lie to us - these are clearly not your own photographs. Some of them, like File:نبات الكتان مع بذره.jpg, are not even photographs; they are paintings! They are all obviously printed on paper; we can see the dots from the printer and the wrinkles in the paper. Omphalographer (talk) 03:19, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
look i told you in another massage their some photos from book i have
please read all my massage i don't won't to missunderstand each other
Sorry BTW cause i send it in two massages
and thank you for your honesty HusseinoK (talk) 03:27, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The photos from the books can't be used because they are likely copyrighted. Uploading them to Commons would constitute a copyright violation. But while you can't upload photos from books, you are welcome to upload photos (of plants) that you have photographed yourself with your own camera or mobile phone. Nakonana (talk) 15:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will remove them okay,but i need some days for these, please
i promsie i will remove all photos (all the photos taken from the book)
Just few days(less than five days)
if anything happens,I am responsible for my photos.
if you want a guarantee like my number or something else i am ready HusseinoK (talk) 17:33, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Yann (talk) 10:01, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by HusseinoK (talk · contribs)

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Not own works, wrong license, no source.

Yann (talk) 10:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete. Like previous uploads, these all look like scans from print media. Some of them might be old enough to be in the public domain, but we'd need to know the actual sources to determine that. Omphalographer (talk) 10:29, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
هذه الصور بعضها من مدينتي حماة و القديم منها موجود في ملفات عائلتي لأنها منزلهم القديم و حارتهم
بالمناسبة يمكنك البحث عن الحارة عند العرب و ماذا تعني لهم
ة أما عن الشخصيات فهي صورة كانت مع جدي وكانت اهداء من صديقه في ايام صغرهم يمكنني ان اصور لك الورقة كاملة مع كتاباتهم علبها لتتأكد من ذلك
و اصور الباقية فهي من تصويري و من ملفات ابي القديمة و الصور السابقة التي قمتم بازالتها هي من ملفات ابي ايضا
بالمناسبة شكرا جزيلا على عدم حسن تعاملكم معي HusseinoK (talk) 16:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 09:12, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files uploaded by HusseinoK (talk · contribs)

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User with bad history, small images without EXIF data, unlikely to be own works.

Yann (talk) 10:08, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

شكرا جزيلا على تقييمك السلبي لي بدون سبب
هذه الملفات رغم صغرها وقلة دقتها لكنها تعد من الارث و من الصعب الحصول عليها
الكثير من المستخدمين العرب سيعرفون قيمتها
اعتذر عنك على سلوكك السيء معي وعلى تصرفك المسيء لي HusseinoK (talk) 16:42, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

redundant to File:Dream By Tanish Kshatriya aka UnKnowrNone.wav (which hopefully is indeed the uploader's own work); put it into Category:Video files that should be audio files. Prototyperspective (talk) 09:29, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:18, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:26, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:26, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Spanish image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:27, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. Not likely an own work taken by the uploader. 70.34.229.242 11:29, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:30, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:31, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:31, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:33, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:34, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:34, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:37, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:37, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:38, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files uploaded by Mjose2024 (talk · contribs)

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These logos look too complex to be free

Gbawden (talk) 11:47, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 11:38, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 12:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 12:02, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 12:02, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 12:03, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 12:05, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. 70.34.229.242 12:07, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Argentinian image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. Also applies to this cropped file: Isabel Perón en la CGT (cropped).jpg. 70.34.229.242 12:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not educationally useful 高砂の浦 (talk) 12:25, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Author(me) request deletion. 高砂の浦 (talk) 12:28, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-1971 Spanish image under copyright in the United States as restored by the URAA. Also applies to this derived file: Frederic Prieto i Caballé a l'Ajuntament de Cornellà de Llobregat (sense fons).png. 70.34.229.242 13:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Oppose This image was a cession from his large family archive (as I stated when uploading it) during his time-serving as a mayor. You can double-check that it is an unpublished file, only reused in B/N (or scanned differently) much later by El Periódico, upon his death last month. I may have directly published it with a full public domain license, but I thought this may be a better one. I would opt for just changing it for a {{CC-0}}, but the deletion would mean the loss of a valuable file with a legit upload. That would mean talking again with his family, revising personally their archive, and picking and uploading another one -which I can do as a local Wikipedian, but time-costly for me and for their mourning. Xavier D. (Messages) 14:31, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused image of unknown person. Out of scope. Nv8200p (talk) 13:18, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Perfectly good photo, both artistically and in terms of educational content. Not out of scope in the least. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:29, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's a great photo, but Commons is not an image repository. Please explain the educational content as I don't get it. Regards
 Keep just on the basis of being a good enough photo that we should keep it. I could imagine someone wanting it for stock usage; also for documenting fashion. - Jmabel ! talk 17:56, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright violation. No freedom of panorama in the United States. Nv8200p (talk) 13:28, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Files uploaded by Rodigou3 (talk · contribs)

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Historical photos. The proper author, publication date, and source information should be given to determine copyright status.

0x0a (talk) 13:58, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright violation. No freedom of panorama in the United States. Nv8200p (talk) 14:07, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Files uploaded by Skullovitch (talk · contribs)

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Commons:Derivative works from toys.

EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:45, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Skullovitch (talk · contribs)

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Out of Commons:Project scope: Unused Wikipedia screenshot.

EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. --Yann (talk) 12:41, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Closed requests
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Files in Category:Gbcopyvios

Flickrwashing. O followers, 0 following, single use flickr account

Gbawden (talk) 06:50, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Files in Category:Gbcopyvios SB19

The photo passed the automatic Flickr review, but descriptions state: "Photos are strictly not for commercial purposes. © All Rights Reserved." or © 2021 ShowBT Philippines. All Rights Reserved.

I don't think these are freely licensed and in fact I think this account is probably flickrwashing as most of the photos seem to be credited to ShowBT

Gbawden (talk) 11:18, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Files in from 185867096@N02

Suspected flickrwashing. The one image has been deleted from Flickr and the other says Copyright holder Andrew Mason in the exif. Account has 1 follower, 0 following. PCP

Gbawden (talk) 09:27, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. - FitIndia Talk 19:48, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Files in Category:Gbcopyvios musiccomposer77

All supplied by Duagherty. All need OTRS. Other uploads of this user have been deleted as copyvios

Gbawden (talk) 07:38, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: . --Didym (talk) 23:13, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Files in Category:Gbcopyvios Flickrwashing

Flickrwashing, new account that only has these 6 photos, most of which have FB MD

Gbawden (talk) 11:38, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 04:43, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Files in Category:Gbcopyvios D1

2 different uploaders claiming the same file as own work. We need OTRS

Gbawden (talk) 06:53, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. --Krd 06:09, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Files in Category:Gbcopyvios D2

The same as his FB profile pic https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=352433473550220&set=a.352433446883556 which if you look carefully is a screenshot (bottom left) of something. Needs OTRS - File:Screenshot of candidate infobox on Chrome mobile.jpg also needs to be deleted if these files are deleted

Gbawden (talk) 07:28, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. --Krd 06:09, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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4 Files in Category:Gbcopyvios

FB screenshots - clearly the Joe Biden photo is not own work. All need OTRS to keep

Gbawden (talk) 11:29, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 18:40, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Files in Category:Gbcopyvios 0824a

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Most of these credited to Niger Delta Insider Facebook Page and claimed as CC0 - no exif, PCP. Not own work unlike other works by this user

Gbawden (talk) 15:12, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files in Category:Gbcopyvios 0824b

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The inaturalist link says CC BY NC which is not compatible with commons

Gbawden (talk) 15:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Out of Commons:Project scope: Commons:What Commons is not#Wikimedia Commons is not your personal free web host. Used in vanity Wikidata item. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:18, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak  Keep. This guy may be notable enough for a WD item. Yann (talk) 12:46, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files uploaded by Arveilles (talk · contribs)

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Political party logos. None of the licenses is correct. Should be uploaded to local wiki (not Commons) under fair use.

I'm nominated for deletion in case I've misread {{PD-Polishsymbol}}/{{PD-Poland-official}}, which I believe only apply to state symbols (not political parties).

Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:23, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These logos have different levels complexity so I think this mass DR should be closed and each file be nominated individually instead. Many of these are not clear cut cases of COM:TOO Poland violation. Jonteemil (talk) 01:19, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Only one of these logos is even close to COM:TOO Poland. If that were the only question, I would have speedy deleted them (again). Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:14, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Logos of political parties are not subject to copyright law in Poland. Moreover, Polish law does not consider logos that are "simple geometric shapes" as subject to copyright law. Upon creation of a visual identification system, a political party consents to its logo being used in the public domain. Arveilles (talk) 09:56, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What's your source on political parties not being subject to copyright? Publishing something doesn't make it public domain. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:14, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Commons decided this argument was invalid on Commons:Deletion requests/Template:PD-Polishparty. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This file was initially tagged by Shizhao as no license (No license since)

Two Malaysian photographs, need a source for each photo used. Possibly PD in Malaysia. Abzeronow (talk) 17:44, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

source is PD-mark shizhao (talk) 03:48, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Flickr source is such, but these are two separate photographs put together and I don't have the information on when they were created or published. Abzeronow (talk) 15:30, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate book scans - alternate version is named "Lewis Tyrrell, or, The depraved count - including The pathetick adventures and tragical end of Ella Clifford and Oscar Henry Hampden, or, The victims of treachery - an English tale" (somewhat different capitalisation). Check individual images using https://imagehash.toolforge.org

~TheImaCow (talk) 18:02, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possível violação de direitos autorais. A foto é a mesma que está em "https://horariodemissahoje.com.br/maranhao/passagem-franca/paroquia-sao-sebastiao-65680-000/". O usuário colocou a imagem como sendo de sua autoria, mas ela já existe na internet. Leandro M800 (talk) 18:06, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Duplicate book scans - alternate version is named "Yorkshire Chap-books" (somewhat different capitalisation). Check individual images using https://imagehash.toolforge.org

~TheImaCow (talk) 18:11, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hoax (an official award ceremony does not take place in a kitchen of a ordinary private household) Mateus2019 (talk) 18:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant. File:Free Education For All logo.svg exists, which is a non-TracedSVG depiction of this same logo. Rubýñ (Scold) 18:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files uploaded by DOME PIRS (talk · contribs)

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Based on the uploader's username, they might be affiliated with the company who created these images, but might not be the photographer. The first three seem to be professional graphics by the company, and the remaining photos have a wide range of exif and resolution. Tineye finds hits on File:DOMES SIMAREX DUPOND - DRY BULK STORAGE - PIRS realization.jpg prior to being uploaded here. If the uploader is the photographer or copyright holder, please provide permission to COM:VRT.

Consigned (talk) 18:22, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Out of scope - unused screenshot of archived software by WMF-banned user (I know I imported this a month ago, that was a mistake) * Pppery * it has begun... 18:29, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's clear this photo was uploaded to Commons simply to illustrate a new Wikipedia article. There's no Creative Commons statement on the source description page, nor am I aware of any such statement anywhere on the Alaska's Digital Archives site. In fact, they have a habit of claiming copyright to materials even if they're in the public domain. This photo and its associated collection are credited to Ron Inouye, who I've had plenty of interaction with over the years. Inouye is a professional historian, which means that he's not in the business of giving his stuff away for free. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 18:35, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files uploaded by مهاالغد (talk · contribs)

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Derivative works. We need a permission from the author of the original content.

Yann (talk) 19:05, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate Whitechoccc (talk) 20:26, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Derivative of non-free package design and advertisement purpose (judging from insertion into a bunch of RuWP articles) Tatewaki (talk) 22:07, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files uploaded by Woertz (talk · contribs)

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COM:CUR Colombia Coins in Colombia are subject to copyright.

Mazbel (Talk) 22:28, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As soon as the author is unknown, we cannot calculate 70 years post mortem. PereslavlFoto (talk) 23:49, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This photograph was first published in 1909-1910 (so in the description of the post of the National Museum of Medicine of Ukraine, where a scan copy of this photograph was published in 2021). This is evidenced by the placement of the photograph on the passepartout, civilian clothes (since 1923, Voyno-Yasenetsky was ordained as a bishop of the church). Thus, more than 110 years have passed since the publication of the photo. The authorship of the photo could not be ascertained at this time. Thus, it is possible to say that this photo is not protected by copyright due to the expiration of the statute of limitations. For photographs of unknown authorship published before 1917, the copyright protection period is: in Ukraine - 70 years from publication (anonymous or pseudonymous work); in the USA - copyrights prior to 1929 have expired, not including copyrights on sound recordings fixed prior to 15 February 1972, covered only under state laws. It is similarly described in the article on copyright below the link:
Under the CDPA, the copyright for a work of unknown authorship expires 70 years after the end of the year in which the work was created (s.12(3)(a)), unless the work is made available to the public during that 70 year period in which case the copyright expires 70 years from the end of the calendar year in which the work was first made available (s.12(3)(b)).
So, in the case of a photograph of unknown authorship appearing in a newspaper or magazine, copyright will expire 70 years from the end of the year in which the work was first published.
However an enormous number of photographs held in archives throughout the UK are likely to have been unpublished at the time of accession to the institution, whether they concern private, family, corporate or government collections. The majority of these works will not have been created for commercial purposes, but rather to document or record a particular moment in time. Where these works are of unknown authorship, copyright expires (or will have expired) 70 years from the end of the year in which the work was first created. Ronan Deazley and Kerry Patterson. COPYRIGHT IN PHOTOGRAPHS: DURATION.
--AMY (talk) 12:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Facebook post linked from Commons description page (Facebook post) has neither date, nor textual description. --PereslavlFoto (talk) 13:36, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You were looking in the wrong place. (2). Фотопортрет. Войно-Ясенецький В.Ф. Приблизно 1909-1910 рр. AMY (talk) 15:08, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. So there is only possible date, something about 1909 or 1910 or somewhen else. The museum gives no evidence of exact date, no evidence of pre-1917 publication in Russian Empire. --PereslavlFoto (talk) 15:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The fact of publication of the photograph is the date of production of the positive from the negative. Secondly, photographs of this format on a mat were distributed precisely until 1917. The photograph of the subject in civilian clothes indicates that it was taken before his transfer to service in the church, i.e. no later than 1923. AMY (talk) 12:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Production of the positive is not any publication. I have plenty of family photos that are positive prints, but they were not published. --PereslavlFoto (talk) 12:31, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
== I have plenty of family photos that are positive prints, but they were not published ==
A controversial statement. AMY (talk) 09:32, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My parents never published these photos, never transferred it to unlimited range of people. --PereslavlFoto (talk) 21:13, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I asked the museum for additional information about this photograph. On the back of the passe-partout it says "Photograph by S. Arons", Balashov ("Фотографія С. Аронсъ", г. Балашовъ). The text is written in pre-revolutionary orthography. The museum dates it 1909-1910. It was during these years that Voyno-Yasenetsky worked as a zemstvo doctor in Balashov district. The indication of the name of the photo studio (the owner's surname) does not give us the photographer's surname, so we can confirm with complete confidence that the publication date is 1910, the author of the photograph is unknown.--AMY (talk) 10:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We need to prove that the image was published by photographer. Usually photographers do not publish and sell all the photographs for wide unlimited turnover. --PereslavlFoto (talk) 21:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Look again at the answer, if the work has not been published (for example, in a newspaper or magazine), and the author remains unknown, copyright expires (or will have expired) 70 years from the end of the year in which the work was first created. All works published prior to October Revolution (7 November 1917) are believed to be uncopyrighted. (Russia) AMY (talk) 07:04, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As soon as the author is unknown, we cannot calculate 70 years post mortem. PereslavlFoto (talk) 23:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]